June 25, 2022

Brian Dietzen Guarantees the Finale Will Reveal ‘a Route’ for Palmer & Knight

[Warning: The below contains MAJOR spoilers for NCIS Season 19, Episode 20 “All or Nothing.”]

Will combating for his or her lives convey Dr. Jimmy Palmer (Brian Dietzen) and Particular Agent Jessica Knight (Katrina Legislation) nearer collectively, simply because it appears a romance won’t occur between them on NCIS? Properly, chances are high trying significantly better on the finish of “All or Nothing” than they have been initially.

After that wedding ceremony date, issues have been … stalled for the potential couple. Palmer even tries to ask Knight out for espresso on this episode, just for her to ask the others alongside. Then, whereas hiding in a cabin and digging a bullet out of him, she admits that she doesn’t need to danger their friendship. However after they survive being hunted within the woods, she asks him to get espresso.

Dietzen breaks down the episode and teases what’s arising within the finale for Palmer and Knight.

This isn’t Jimmy’s season. The biotoxin, now this and getting shot…

Brian Dietzen: This man’s strolling round with a goal on his again. I really feel like Jimmy’s an avatar for all of the individuals on the planet going via actually powerful instances over the past couple of years.

Brian Dietzen as Jimmy Palmer, and Elle Graper as Victoria Palmer in NCIS

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There could also be some happiness with Knight. Is he feeling optimistic about their future on the finish of the episode?

I’d prefer to assume so. You understand the historical past of NCIS, it’s crammed with some tragic love tales which were actually lovely and iconic, whether or not it’s Tony [Michael Weatherly] and Ziva [Cote de Pablo] or Bishop [Emily Wickersham] and Torres [Wilmer Valderrama], even Sloane [Maria Bello] and Gibbs [Mark Harmon]. There’s been numerous issues the place issues have occurred relationship-wise on this present. It’s good to see one thing the place there’s some happiness. Jimmy did clearly beforehand expertise happiness along with his spouse, Breena [Michelle Pierce], who sadly handed away, and McGee [Sean Murray] clearly could be very pleased with Delilah [Margo Harshman], however onscreen flirtations and that type of factor haven’t all the time yielded the very best outcomes on this present over the previous twenty years, so it’s good to have somewhat little bit of hope there.

What occurred on the wedding ceremony? Is it simply that they’re getting nearer?

Yeah, I believe that principally they’d a good time collectively. We noticed in that episode that I co-wrote that Jimmy did say to himself and to his daughter and to his pals he’s prepared to maneuver on. He put the ring up on the shelf. This was his first style of, “Oh, wow, there’s life past what I had. There’s life past that grief.” He skilled a good time with somebody he clearly likes they usually had a beautiful time.

Katrina Law as NCIS Special Agent Jessica Knight and Brian Dietzen as Jimmy Palmer in NCIS

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Discuss constructing that relationship as a result of their friendship jumped out from Katrina’s character becoming a member of the present.

Yeah, she was introduced on as a potential new sequence common as soon as we knew Emily Wickersham was gonna be leaving the present. After they have somebody [who] could be a part of the present full-time, you see some actually nice scenes that they provide them, as a method of our producers, the community, you identify it, saying, does this character and this actor gel with this group that we’ve come to know and love for a pair many years? We received an incredible three-page scene down in post-mortem whereas she was speaking concerning the lack of her REACT crew, and Jimmy was having a heart-to-heart together with her and saying that he’s been in her footwear earlier than having misplaced somebody that he beloved as effectively. Proper from the soar, these characters actually hit it off effectively and Katrina and I hit it off effectively behind the digital camera as effectively. I actually get pleasure from working together with her. She’s a beautiful and really gifted actor. I believe that seeing that Jimmy and Knight labored effectively collectively, simply speaking and on an emotional degree, the writers determined to push in the direction of that and the community appeared to actually prefer it.

What’s arising for them within the finale?

It received’t be one other six or seven episodes earlier than they deal with this factor once more. Typically we’ve numerous tales to inform, so you possibly can’t fairly get again to love, what occurred at that wedding ceremony? Did they join, or did they not? They positively can be addressing their time collectively on this episode. … We’re not leaving the viewers excessive and dry on the place the heck is that this factor going? We’re gonna be selecting a route earlier than the tip of this episode.

Brian Dietzen and Katrina Law on NCIS set

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Discuss filming Monday’s episode with Katrina. It’s not usually we see you out of the workplace in this type of scenario.

Yeah, that’s true. It’s enjoyable to have somewhat fish out of the water. It was a good time filming it. We had a beautiful director in Tawnia Mckiernan and our writing crew was fantastic on it as effectively and really collaborative with each Katrina and I, so getting on the market and spending numerous time exterior, it felt like we have been capturing somewhat film inside an episode. There was loads of stunts. We received our stunt crew going they usually taught us methods to do nearly the whole lot on the market. It was a good time. It was a kind of ones the place you go, I’m positively not gonna overlook that episode.

We additionally received Ducky on this episode and I beloved seeing David [McCallum] again and that all the time nice Palmer-Ducky dynamic. Will we see the 2 of them within the finale?

Sure. We don’t get to have Palmer and Ducky in tons of scenes collectively for the episode as a result of they’re not working collectively a lot anymore, however we do get to see them collectively in a scene that I believe is simply fantastic. It’s simply all the time so nice to have David come again and it’s fantastic to see how nice that man is at his job. I really like working with him and it’s all the time a deal with.

Brian Dietzen as Palmer, David McCallum as Ducky in NCIS

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Talking of the finale, Parker’s [Gary Cole] framed for homicide, I assume by the Raven, given the episode title [“Birds of a Feather”]. What are you able to tease?

It’s positively gonna be one the place the entire crew has to come back collectively, and people clearly are our strongest episodes when nobody’s left on the bench. Equally to the penultimate episode that I’m speaking about right this moment, it’s all fingers on deck as soon as once more and this time they’ve to face up for a man that’s new to their crew and work out what they will do for this man who’s are available in to steer them for this previous yr. It’s fairly nice. Everybody has their second on this finale.

How’s Jimmy feeling concerning the Raven being again, given what occurred final time?

I might think about he’s fairly pissed off. [Laughs] I do know he’s. That was a close to demise expertise. That’s horrible. However to compound that with that was a close to demise expertise and my daughter nearly needed to watch me die, I might think about that not only for Jimmy, but in addition for the remainder of his crew, actually Kasie [Diona Reasonover], this factor is gonna be way more private for them due to what they have been put via and the way this NCIS crew nearly misplaced two members of its household.

You continue to have the crew coping with Gibbs leaving. I favored the way in which Jimmy and Gibbs’ relationship developed over time.

Yeah, I believed that they did a beautiful job on that first episode after Gibbs left, [when] Jimmy invited Ducky right down to spend a while with him to help him on autopsies and about three quarters of the way in which via the episode, Jimmy simply got here out with and stated, “I simply need you to remain down right here. I don’t need issues altering anymore that they’ve. Between Bishop and Gibbs and my spouse, too many issues have modified. Are you able to please simply keep?” And Ducky, in fact, imparts pearls of knowledge of claiming, “All the things adjustments. That’s an indication of life. That’s an indication that one thing is constant to stay is that it grows and it adjustments. And that the best act of affection that we might present Gibbs is to offer him our blessing in what he’s doing now.”

Due to that, Jimmy most likely has come to peace with Gibbs’ determination to go away, however that doesn’t imply that the man’s not gonna miss him. He actually has been so shut with him over time, and Gibbs has saved his bacon greater than as soon as. And NCIS, as we’ve all the time stated, there’s such a household dynamic to it that may’t be denied. In that respect when a member of the family strikes away and that type of factor, that doesn’t imply they’re not part of your life anymore. It simply means they’re not part of your daily.

He’s alive. He can come again. Though it felt like we didn’t get that a lot closure for Palmer as a result of we didn’t get a goodbye second in his final episode.

I used to be bummed that I didn’t get that, however truthfully I believe that it was such an incredible episode that was written that you just couldn’t stack goodbye scene on high of goodbye scene. In any other case you actually wouldn’t have any room to do the rest or to resolve the crime that they have been really making an attempt to resolve as effectively. There was some fantastic goodbyes in there. I actually selfishly would’ve favored Jimmy to have his personal, however I perceive the sensible the reason why it couldn’t be accomplished.

Will you be writing one other episode subsequent season?

Yeah, I can be. There was a superb response to the episode this yr and I loved doing it and I requested as soon as once more they usually stated, “Certain, let’s do that factor.”

NCIS, Season 19 Finale, Monday, Could 23, 9/8c, CBS