August 12, 2022

‘Superman & Lois’ Boss on Clark’s Watery New Digs, Diggle’s Return & Season 3’s Gang of Bother

[Warning: The below contains MAJOR spoilers for Superman & Lois‘ Season 2 finale, “Waiting for Superman.” So if you haven’t watched yet, maybe your Bizarro World double can fill you in.]

Worlds collided, marriages collapsed and secrets and techniques got here out throughout Smallville this week as we bid goodbye to Superman & Lois for the summer season. However earlier than any glad endings might occur, the delightfully rehabilitated Tal-Rho (Adam Rayner) helped a power-drained Clark (Tyler Hoechlin) harness the energy of the solar to conquer Ally Allston (Rya Kihlstedt) and separate our world from its parasitic Bizarro twin. In the meantime, the remainder of the Kents, John Henry Irons (Wolé Parks), and his now steel-suited daughter Natalie (Tayler Buck) supplied their at all times heroic help from the bottom (and air), ultimately saving the day and sending a message to the residents of Earth that the Man of Metal was again and higher than ever.

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Now what? Properly, we bought some intel from a visiting John Diggle (David Ramsey) concerning the looming risk of DC Comics’ legal group Intergang, however in keeping with showrunner Todd Helbing, that’s not the one bother brewing for Season 3. Right here, he teases just a few issues and explains precisely which Diggle that was within the diner.

Congratulations on surviving the season. You should be exhausted from simply the post-production on this episode.

Todd Helbing: You already know what’s so humorous is that yesterday morning till I don’t know, 12:00 or 1:00am, we had been going by the final visual-effects photographs. So we had been chopping it all the way down to the wire. The final quantity I heard was that we had 306 visible results photographs within the finale. That’s like a film. So yeah, should you run something, print how superb our visible results group is. Truthfully, it’s insane what these individuals are capable of accomplish.

It appeared spectacular, but in addition the scope was far greater than a traditional season finale. You lined quite a lot of emotional territory.

Yeah. It’s exhausting with [broadcast-length shows] to get every part in, however we actually attempt our greatest to provide as many emotional moments, these spectacle moments and to wrap every part up. We really feel like we hit quite a bit on this episode and tried to tie up all of the free ends. The emotion is basically the most important a part of the present. It ought to really feel that method, as an viewers member.

I appreciated the way you had been ready to make use of the Cushings’ stuff — in the course of all this chaos, as two worlds had been merging, we noticed how these two worlds, Lana (Emmanuelle Chriqui) and Kyle (Erik Valdez), aren’t meant to remain collectively.

That’s proper, yeah. There’s quite a lot of parallels, proper? It’s like Kyle saved making an attempt, however on the finish of the day, they must be separate.

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We had all of the drama of Lana discovering out about Clark, now Sarah (Inde Navarrette) and Chrissy (Sofia Hasmik) each know. You’re actually constructing an excellent group right here.

Yeah. I believe the “secrets and techniques” factor is such a trope and we wished to make it totally different and have some impression. Clearly the Lana-Clark stuff, there was quite a lot of impression there. However in the identical gentle, as soon as we knew that we had been going to disclose that secret, it simply felt like “OK, it’s such a trope in tv and comedian books, let’s simply get it out of the way in which.” Plus, we actually wished to get Clark working on the Gazette. We had been making an attempt to do this in Season 2, nevertheless it simply didn’t occur for a number of causes. However there’s no method that Clark Kent can work at a three-person newspaper and nonetheless disguise that secret whereas at all times going to save lots of the world with out it being very unusual. [Laughs] However the greater purpose is Chrissy is Lois’ pal and he or she must be trustworthy along with her.

Now, the Diggle second, I’m nonetheless confused. What are you organising there? Is that this the Justice U. factor or is that this one thing that you just’re seeking to do within the present subsequent season?

Properly, what we actually wished to do is simply principally tee up one of many villains, Bruno Manheim. And likewise, the stuff that we had Diggle do and say in Season 1… I couldn’t be up entrance with the viewers till this episode about how we’re linked to the Arrowverse or not linked. And so we needed to very rigorously have him say issues that might be introduced as a technique however the true purpose is a special factor. So yeah, no, it was actually simply to arrange Bruno and to kind of cement that this man is a special Diggle than the Diggle that was in Arrow. That is our Earth’s model of Diggle, he bought introduced with the inexperienced field and every part he mentioned in Season 1 is true. There’s been an Oliver Queen who died. There have been different heroes, however there was no one with superpowers apart from Superman. And he’s the one superpowered individual on this planet apart from Jordan proper now.

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You then ship Lucy off to Metropolis, and we all know from Supergirl that Lucy was in Metropolis.

Yeah. So the easiest way to consider that is that among the characters are doppelgangers, some aren’t. Proper? So Common Lane clearly isn’t. Lucy is. Diggle is. You might even see different individuals which might be. However they’re all totally different variations of them. Identical to how John Henry got here from a special planet the place there’s a dangerous Kal-El, it’s the identical kind of concept.

And Tal…I beloved him calling it “Bizarre Smallville.” I might watch that present. Now that he’s established a more in-depth reference to Clark and had his hero redemption arc, do you propose on protecting him as sort of a card up your sleeve?

Completely. I imply, Adam Rayner’s a tremendous expertise and even higher man. And yeah, identical to you mentioned, we love this dynamic and our forged is kind of getting greater and larger, so we don’t wish to shortchange anyone’s display screen time and story. However we love the man a lot and we love the place it’s gotten to so we wish to preserve that dynamic going as a lot as potential.

All proper, so that you arrange Bruno Mannheim as considered one of your bads subsequent yr. What are you able to inform us about what’s your tackle Intergang?

I imply, properly we’ve seen Killgrave (Brendan Fletcher) in Season 1, proper? And we’ve talked about Intergang. My hiatus begins tomorrow, so we haven’t in earnest gotten into any big discussions however there’s at all times concepts that float round and kind of percolate, however typically, we wish to do like we did with Eradicator, with Parasite twins, and discover our method into it that’s totally different and new — kind of spotlight different features and have them come out in attention-grabbing methods so it looks like a brand new model.

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And what would you like for the Kents subsequent yr? Smallville is now “The Residence of Superman.” You’ve bought it on the water towers, all that stuff. Is he going to go business?

[Laughs] I don’t assume he’s going to go business. However it’s attention-grabbing in life when issues are celebrated like that, there’s at all times the fallout of that. So it’s clearly “Superman saved the day!” and that’s all nice and every part, however his son now’s on a special stage. As his mother and father, how do Clark and Lois cope with that? It’s simply such a special time and place [from where they started]. There’s cell telephones, the Web, there’s Reddit, Twitter. How do you retain that from turning into a problem when Jordan is like, “Wait a second, I simply saved Uncle Tal. I had an enormous half in that”? Nat had an enormous half in it. There’s this different individual flying round in a metal swimsuit. That stuff’s bought to return out. And the way do you retain your child secure? In order that’s kind of what we wish to play with.

After which did you resolve, “Let’s make our jobs more durable by introducing potential water units.”

[Laughs] Yeah. I believe it’ll be much like the ice fortress, the sand fortress, the place we’re going to have some sensible stuff as a result of we will’t afford to have a full inexperienced display screen set. However yeah, it’ll be a problem for certain, however within the authentic pitch for the present, there was going to be the water fortress. That was the opening scene and I’ve wished to do this endlessly. I saved pitching it in Season 1 and a pair of and now it’s lastly occurred.

And that was one thing that they did within the animated sequence, proper?

Yeah. And it simply felt like “All proper, if we’re going to make a brand new place the place all people might be part of issues, the place we get Jonathan in there, we get Lois, we’d have extra household moments in that fortress, let’s put it in a cool spot.” [Laughs]

And also you’re going to place Jon in some sort of Kryptonian expertise, I’m assuming?

Yeah, there’s a pair other ways to go together with what Clark says. So we’ll see how that every one performs out.

Proper. As a result of it may very well be extra him engaged on the tech aspect than having him suiting up ultimately?

Mm-hmm. We will see.

OK. All proper. All proper, properly hear. Congratulations once more on an unbelievable season. I hope you have got large plans to your hiatus.

I do. Loads of it entails sleep and the opposite half is simply being with my spouse and children. [Laughs]

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